Thieves Use 'Craigslist Hoax' to Cover Tracks
A recent "Craigslist hoax" -- where someone posted a Craigslist item that said anyone could take anything from a Oregon home -- turns out to have been a diversion to cover the tracks of thieves. The crooks, Brandon and Amber Herbert, had come by the victim's house because it was advertised for rent. They apparently saw some horse saddles they wanted to steal, so they placed the ad, then joined the mob of people ransacking the joint. Unfortunately for the thieves, investigators TRACKED THE IP ADDRESS of the computer that placed the ad back to the Herbert's house, where cops found the computer and recovered deleted files that prove they placed the ad.
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thieves are dickheads and scum
What I want to know is did people just show up at the place and break the door down while no one was home? What is to keep this from happening again? The people who entered the house uninvited were also breaking the law. What a sad day (among many) that something as helpful as Craig's List could be used for something this bad.
I just read the full article and how horrible to come home and find people taking your things. This could happen to anybody. How do you stop something like this from happening again? Who the f--k thinks that because something is posted on the web that it is true?
Did you know that in some countries they will chop off your hand for stealing? It's not barbaric, it's effective.
always, ALWAYS use a proxy.
I laugh at the prospect of the police recovering "deleted" files. Probably forgot to empty Recycle Bin. I bet they couldn't even do this captcha
Meth. No doubt about it.
"I laugh at the prospect of the police recovering "deleted" files. Probably forgot to empty Recycle Bin. I bet they couldn't even do this captcha"
When you "delete" a file from your computer, it is not actually removed. The data is still on the disk and is simply marked as available to be overwritten.
If the files haven't yet been overwritten, you can "recover" them, as they are still actually on your hard drive.
To completely remove a file, you would have to wipe your hard drive.
you can just secure delete a file, that almost always works, but the ONLY 100% way is to destroy the hard drive.
or you could just use a fucking proxy.
also this is really funny; admit it.
You don't have to wipe the entire hard drive to prevent a file from being recovered. Choose "Secure Empty Trash" in the Finder.
Seriously, if you are going to go to the trouble of placing this kind of an ad, why wouldn't you simply wardrive to an open WiFi network and place it from there?
Not even wiping is that effective. After one wipe some pieces of software can even get your data back. After more than one wipe it takes hardware, but it's still possible. Research shows it takes at least 15 full writes (write all 0's then all 1's) before you can consider an HD completly clean. Anything less than that and they can use devices that physically remove a layer of magnetic material from a drive exposing the layer underneath it. Usually due to the properties of magnetics, the layer beneath is an opposite, a mirror. But yeah, even if they were deleted, disk commander would getem back. Then again Zilla Data Nuker might disagree.
Doesn't anybody up there use koork.com to check people's Craigslist feedback before responding to these ads?
"Not even wiping is that effective. After one wipe some pieces of software can even get your data back."
I refer you to the Great Zero Challenge.
what a fucking tool
fucking oregon methhead pricks i hope they're locked up for a long long time
Even a proxy server is traceable.
Instead use a computer physically located somewhere fairly far from home, certainly NOT your home computer. For example, use a kiosk at a library or an internet cafe.
THAT PIC IS PHOTOSHOPPED LMFAO
I hope that this thief is really popular in jail for what he did, and that his wife gets thrown into one of those prisons like from that Linda Blair movie where she is "abused" by Sybil Danning. But instead of a Sybil Danning look-alike this dreadful she-thief gets a Rosanne Barr look-alike or shares a cell with a Rosie O'Donnell clone.
lol @ wanting to steal horse saddles....
Idiots
Craigslist requires the posting computer to accept cookies. I don't think most library computers do.
Also, the poster's e-address isn't visable on CL. So it would be difficult to look up on the Koors site.
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Nehmo
I shall be boycotting this site in future due to the unacceptable amount of bad language used by posters.
They did all of this for horse saddles? LOL.
Happy April 1st (little late)
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lived in cali for 20 yrs moved up to south oregon for the past two years now im back in san francisco and things like this is one of the reasons i left.the level of criminal idoitry is off the hook.meth tweeks and broke ass white durtballs.the cops dont come when you call them.the place is a free for all for bad things to happen.i had to barely sleep at night with a loaded gun next to my bed cause the place creeped me out so bad.so if any of you californicators wanna move up there.take it from me the place sucks donkey dong.christian right wingers,cousin cornobbers,toothless low wattage inbred mutants,snooty turds who think they run things(hellgatejetboats.com)in grants pass up to the late 70s they had"no blacks after dark"signds on the main street thru town,that place is beyond horrible and im just waiting to sell the house i bought when the real estate market was off the hook and never have to go to that podunk turdhole ever again.also its hella cold. goes for months with no sun then u get 3 months off 100 degree scorching then it gets freezing again.
@Andrew,, You did not come to a fucking Disney website you tool! If you cant take the heat get the fuck out of the kitchen you little whiner!
I hate to say this... but if I saw either of them on the street, I would immediately know they just dont have a lot going on in their little brains.
I mean come on!!! In this day and age, there are so many public terminals. A person with even rudimentary knowledge would know better than to use their own computer and internet access.
I guess intelligence can't be stolen.
I too am thoroughly shocked by the obscene language on this web site...but I like it. I really do.
The problem of data recovery is cost. If you over write a hard drive six times the cost of scientists trying to recover the data will be like trying to buy the City of New York. The results are also likely to be poor.And the time it takes to recover that data will very likely exceed the statute of limitations for most crimes. And then you are still up against proving exactly who put the files on that computer.
Crime = Opportunity + Desire.
Desire is always there and it's on you to eliminate opportunity. In this case The damned intraweb is to blame
>I refer you to the Great Zero Challenge.
While I don't disagree dd may do the job, what company is going to spend the time and money to attempt this for $40 and the hard drive? Not to mention the $60 and shipping both ways.
Even if it can be done, no one is going to waste thier time to lose $20+ to do it.
I think I might have shot someone if I came home to thieves and trespassers.
moral: never trust anything you read on the internet
ha ha, Just how dumb can you get?
they look sad in the picture especially her eyes have been crying recently people make mistakes although this was a thought out one sure hope they go straight and try n repay their debt to us all and do some good for all.
Yeah everyone just come on out and take whatever you want, how stupid. Whats worse, sounds like these two idiots are the only ones that got caught. hahaha
Bryan
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bunch of morons, they get props for originality, they only made on inexperienced error in using their home computer, don't worry i'm sure they'll do better next time.
p.s. looks like there's a bunch of data recovery experts here ... overwrite the drive at least 15 times ... lol fuck-tards
I SUGGEST THAT YOU CHECK THE PEOPLE AT YOU FORUMS, BECAUSE THEY DONT ANY ENGLISH VERY GOOD AND CANT SPELL. THIS REFLECTS ON CRAIGSLIST AND MAKES YOU LOOK BAD. ==NOW THIS IS FROM ME==http://www.com/Activism/First-Steo-for-the-Solution-to-Global-Warming.103109 THIS IS THE FIRST STEP TO DELETING GLOBAL WARMING, ONLY THING IS I DONT HAVE ANY MONEY SO MY GLOBAL WARMING PROJECT WONT BE STARTED UNTIL PEOPLE OR COUNTRIES BUY MY PROVEN SOLUTIONS OR DONATE ALOT OF MONEY AND I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS THIS PLAN.
Yes, people who "DONT ANY ENGLISH VERY GOOD" is a big problem.
It's also annoying when people use only uppercase letters.
Mike
For those of you laughing at the idea of stealing saddles, many saddles sell for more than $2,000 each, easily.
theise two people in the pickture for thieves use creigslist hoax to cover tracks just happen to be free and living in Spokane, washington. they hang out at the STA buss plaza between Spreague ave. and riverfront street. just incase they have not been cought yet. they hang almost every day thare.
That is awesome. But was the house unlocked or did people break into it?
so, they checked out a house for rent and saw some saddles they wanted to steal? Is there a huge reasle market in Oregon for saddles? Were they custom diamond clad gangsta bling bling or were they thieves just that stupid?
I could think of a lot better things that are in the typical household that would bring a good resale value if you were into fencing goods.
I mean, I'm sure they had some aluminum cans that could be recycled for a quarter every ten pounds.
How exactly did they get into the house?
that is stupid...and for the people that went to follow up with the ad they should of relized that something was wrong.
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