U.S. Army To Test Super Gun
The U.S. Army plans to test next month a SUPER GUN from a company appropriately called Metal Storm that can shoot 240,000 bullets per minute. The gun has no moving parts. Among its many tricks, the gun can actually shoot down enemy mortar fire. I want one.
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And just where do the bullets go?!?
the question is where you store the huge number of bullets that you would need to fire at 4000 bps
at the bad guys, silly!
where do the shells go smart ass
I'd attach it to my Warthog.
Can I get one for my Hummer?
no shells, read about the technology.
from TFA:
"This Australian/US firm's fully loaded barrel tubes are essentially serviceable weapons, without the traditional ammunition feed or ejection system, breech opening or any other moving parts. The technology uses the concept of numerous projectiles stacked in a barrel, in which each projectile has its own propellant load. The leading propellant can be electronically ignited to fire the projectile, without the resulting high pressure and temperature causing unplanned blow-by ignition of the following propellant load, and without collapse of the projectile column in the barrel. Metal Storm barrels can be effectively grouped in multiple configurations to meet a diversity of applications, are extremely reliable due to their lack of moving parts, and are capable of local or remote operation through a computerized fire control system."
Just more USA Army Business shit.
This industry just cares about making money, ripping human flesh and bones.
BUSH & Co. must be very proud of this Metal Shit Storm.
I just would like to see how all those bullets gets into he's dog ass, and keep going straight to he's brain. One bullet on he's mouth, one for each eye, and spread the rest all over the chest.
Hey! who cares?!
Isn't it what they are already doing to innocent people in Irak? And soon, as it seems to be, in Iran...??
WTH... but you, stupid americans, think "the empire" ante de Stupid American Dream is a F****NG movie. Right?
Keep dreaming, idiots.
"Just more USA Army Business shit.
This industry just cares about making money, ripping human flesh and bones.
BUSH & Co. must be very proud of this Metal Shit Storm.
I just would like to see how all those bullets gets into he's dog ass, and keep going straight to he's brain. One bullet on he's mouth, one for each eye, and spread the rest all over the chest.
Hey! who cares?!
Isn't it what they are already doing to innocent people in Irak? And soon, as it seems to be, in Iran...??
WTH... but you, stupid americans, think "the empire" ante de Stupid American Dream is a F****NG movie. Right?
Keep dreaming, idiots."
wha?
Wow, this bitch clearly lacked some motherly love when growing up...
Its a new techhnology relying on electricaly inducted current to detonate the caseless ammo in a sequential sequence.
The ammo is stored INSIDE the barrel, stacked end to end.
because there are no mechanical moving parts, the rate of fire can be very high.
google for metal storm's website, they explain everything.
I'm not sure its viable for personal hand held weapons, but used more as artillery defense, I think it could work well.
Do we honestly need to shoot 4000 bps? That is insane, and a waste of money/ammo
Damn hippies. in case you hadn't noticed the world is a dangerous place. Hopes that everyone will "just get along" won't keep your country safe, however 240,000 rounds a minute will.
Yo quiero una de estas para acabar literalmente con los perros narco-terroristas de las FARC en Colombia!!! Por favor una sola necesito!!!
"And just where do the bullets go?!?"
LOL... thats exactly the first thing I though. It must shoot 240,000 BB'bs in 1 second then need a refill :P
This is just silly. Each "pod" can hold a whopping 20 rounds. The web sites says that they rate of fire is only 6K/min. Who cares how fast it can shoot if you need to relaod after 20 rounds. Another waste of US taxpeyer money.
Damn hippies. in case you hadn't noticed the world is a dangerous place. Hopes that everyone will "just get along" won't keep your country safe, however 240,000 rounds a minute will.
Uh huh... so what if I'm invading your country and I have a few of these beasts on my side, too?
"Damn hippies. in case you hadn't noticed the world is a dangerous place."
any atrocity is thereby justified. I think I talked to this laptop warrior at a party last year.
This gun isn't going to be used on humans. It sounds as if it'll be an anti-material weapon, ie: shooting down mortars, etc.
Much like the Barrett .50cal sniper rifle, I believe it's against law, geneva convention, whatever to be used on human targets, it's main purpose is to penetrate armor plates and stop tanks, trucks, etc.
Calm down...
"I believe it's against law, geneva convention, whatever to be used on human targets, it's main purpose is to penetrate armor plates and stop tanks, trucks, etc."
And we know that every country follows those rules, uh huh.
I love the way people jump in thinking they know everything about war's and politics.
May I suggest you first learn how to spell IRAQ (Irak...wtf?) and secondly, jump back in your VW Van and go chain yourselves to a tree, or an abortion clinic where chances are, you will have more luck than setting light to the american flag outside American Express in the UK in the hope that Bush might see, and reconsider the war.
What a bunch of inbred wankers.
"I believe it's against law, geneva convention, whatever to be used on human targets, it's main purpose is to penetrate armor plates and stop tanks, trucks, etc."
If there's one thing that the US
has shown it's that they'll gladly
throw aside the UN and the Geneva
Conventions whenever it suits their needs. Sure it's not SUPPOSED to be used on humans but
that's like saying steak knives are only supposed to cut steak.
The US would not spend the kind of money this thing is going to cost to shoot down a few mortar shells (who the hell even uses mortars anymore anyways?!).
Now if the US were real smart they'd just throw all that money they just wasted into some good-ol'fashioned Propaganda...
This is a new and interesting technology. Like all new technology it will improve over time. It took a while for the machine gun to evolve and so will this.
That ROF is amazing though.
At this point is would be impractical to use against human targets because:
It is very expensive
Probably reasonably difficult to maintain
No military at present are qualified to service or operate it.
As far as the invasion goes, I think everyone needs to relax. The bad guys went to jail or were killed. The innocent people were saved. And the only people over there bitching are the ones who have something to hide or were profitting from Saddam's Regime.
In addition, I think it would be difficult for President Bush to go into another country(Iran) without tangible proof of illegal weapons or terroist presense.
Everybody just chill.
This is listed as an 'area denial system' - a replacement for minefields. No need to restart the religious debate on landmines, please. The system can be set to fire various combinations of ammo at various rates, which would be quite handy.
Think that your barrier plan now includes the ability to fire smoke or warning shots to scare off non-combatants, and then follow it with rapid HE for anyone unwilling to take the warning.
They are MIND Bullets...of course.
Do you often get in the line of mortar fire? :)
Do you often get in the line of mortar fire? :)
- "Damn hippies. in case you hadn't noticed the world is a dangerous place."
Yep... a dengerous place, because of shit like this.
- "May I suggest you first learn how to spell IRAQ (Irak...wtf?) "
Who the fuck told you there is just one way to write country names, stupid. Irak is perfectly written like that.
- "As far as the invasion goes, I think everyone needs to relax. The bad guys went to jail or were killed. The innocent people were saved..."
WHATTT???. OH MY GOD! WHAT AN IDIOT!!!
"The innocent people were saved..." ???? SUN OF A BITCH, PLEASEEEE don't write that BUSH Administration's SHIT here, ok??
-"I think it would be difficult for President Bush to go into another country(Iran) without tangible proof of illegal weapons or terroist presense"
You mean, FAKE Evidence like the one exposed to invade Irak (or Iraq, for the sucker up there)???
This is all crap.
"I believe it's against law, geneva convention, whatever to be used on human targets, it's main purpose is to penetrate armor plates and stop tanks, trucks, etc."
Since nobody else has gotten around to mentioning this, this is an urban legend. .50 caliber weapons are entirely legal to use on human targets. And are routinely used for precisely that by every military force.
In case you guys havent noticed, the US is not fighting 'traditional' wars anymore. It's armed forces are being mobilized and trained to fight terrorist and sub national groups. These groups are often not very well funded, and as such use older military technology that can be picked up cheaper on the black market or trafficked in from somewhere over their borders.
A traditional war will not have much in the way of mortar fire, but terrorist groups routinely use mortars. As such, I am all for the US spending millions on something that can protect the lives of our military fighting terrorists overseas. Even if it just saves one life, it's enough.
A gun, in whatever form, is just a mechanism for enforcing your will upon others. When was the last time someone forced their will upon you with favourable results?
i think if they decreased the rate of fire to maybe 500 bps, the thing would be more accurate, and still shoot the heck out of anything in it's way.
It seems like a lot of you have an issue with money…. Are you telling me that YOU know how much a human life is worth? Please tell us… If it is the cost of a couple bullets then I am going to say that you are mistaken. Your life maybe only worth a couple bullets and some metal but I am guessing the normal honest citizen wouldn’t think so. Waste of money/ammo? If it defuses a situation where the life of an innocent human can be spared. Go for it.
Just one thought on my mind:
"Come fuckin' get some, alien bitches!"
Boom. Invasion over.
"Do you often get in the line of mortar fire? :)"
I have been in the line of mortar fire...I am in Iraq right now. I saved an Iraqi soldiers life who's leg was blown off by a mortar. IRAQI soldier! Ive also seen American and British soldiers hit my mortars. So for all you people who think you know everything about everything because you read it on your yahoo homepage when it pops up, remember that you dont know anything about anything unitil you have seen it.
-Mike, US ARMY, IRAQ
"The US would not spend the kind of money this thing is going to cost to shoot down a few mortar shells (who the hell even uses mortars anymore anyways?!)."
Mortars are still heavily used to this day. Countries who get their technology from the old Soviet superpower use the mortars that were commonly used during the Cold War and WWII eras. Nations capable of Modern Warfare use a new kind of mortar fire, the Howitzer Antipersonnel and Antivehicular Artillery Weapon.
And as a correction to everyone else, the poor ignorant SOB who posted the anti-american flame in this thread was not a hippie. He was a violent, naive, idiotic, fanatic liberal (in terms of US partisan politics), and his/her only goal was to stir up anger and a slew of poorly thought out responses simply so he in his delusional world he can think that a victory was gained.
Mike, What the fuck are you doing there???
Why don't you ask Bush to take your place for a while, while you come here, and drink some beer?
Op.. yep.. sorry. I forgot Bush is toooo busy signing papers, and making money.
What...?
If He es is thinking about you?
I don't think so. :(
Mike, good luck there.
But, please, leave thath shit. novody cares about your life. So save your own ass.
We'll keep the beer on the fridge, for you.
PS: BUSH, fuck off.
Everyone on here is full of shit. All of you armchair activists and psuedo poly sci students can take a flying fuck off a cliff. Not one of you knows enough to comment on war, foreign policy, or politics. Stop spewing bullshit you learned from your "alternative news sources" or fox news or whatever crap you watch that makes you feel "informed".
Mike i like how u have time to save and IRAQI (all caps i dont know y?) and still come post at a blog!!! way to keep focused on "saving inosent live"!!!
argh! ....argh!
tukulito saca chispas!!!
Those our paintball barrels from a Tippmann gun
Can this be any more fake!!
Where do the bullets go? Do they have a rev'd up Roomba that follows it around!
I love how so many people think that they know everything about politics and what is going on in the middle east. Any moron can tell that 99.9% of all media is biased in one way or another, so if you think that you are getting the whole story from the news, you are sadly mistaken. It is amazing the difference between what is said on the tv and what you would hear from the mouths of everyday people that are over there. And i'm not talking about the people that are paid to say all the right things, i am talking real people who are doing good things to make the world just a little bit safer.
"am talking real people who are doing good things to make the world just a little bit safer."
And those are..... ???
Read a lot of the comments... thought I'd throw in my 2c.
The Metal Storm guns are already in use. This is just a new one. They use them on boats, and they rarely miss, since they are like a laser beam of metal. Hence the company name Metal Storm.
They line up the rounds in the barrel, and shoot them all at the same time. Not sure how the other rounds get in there, but you end up with a solid line of rounds. I remember seeing a video a couple of years ago, and it chewed through 20 solid wooden doors in about 0.2 seconds. Each bullet in the tube is running so close to the other bullets it's in a perfect slip stream, getting a free ride through the air, which counters the impact from when it fires the bullet in front of it.
http://Iraq.Insurgents.JustGotOwned.com
Mortar interception would be very handy.
Now I'm just waiting until we can mount these on tanks to intercept RPGs.
And by the way, "Irak" is the French spelling of Iraq, so any time you see it you're either talking to a French person or a francophone Quebecker who's not very well educated in English.
Et oui, ju parle francais et j'habite en Quebec.
"Mike i like how u have time to save and IRAQI (all caps i dont know y?) and still come post at a blog!!! way to keep focused on "saving inosent live"!!!"
Ok, what this guy posted does not make sense. The soldiers in Iraq are not constantly locked in combat, they probably get some free time. I can't believe that you would cut on this guy.
DOWN WITH AMERICA!
who the hell even uses mortars anymore anyways?!
Yeah, only 96 percent of the Iraqi Insurgents.
I'm anonymous and I like chicken.
I'm anonymous and I like chicken.
Wow thats a whole lot of bullets! Wouldnt like to be in charge of deliverying this thing with bullets, my back would be out in like 0.387 seconds! ^^
PFT, i cant login to my account! hehe
WOW!!!! This has got to be the most idiotic thread I have ever seen! Fine your anti-american, whatever!! I support my troops seeing as I am one and god bless them for all that they do and sacrifice for us ni the US. We all have our own feelings on this but what that person said to Mike is totally wrong, keep it up Mike save every life that you can over there and fuck all of these hipocrites!
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IS IT JUST ME OR DOES ANYONE ELSE NOTE THE UTTER LACK OF THE ABILITY TO SPELL BY MANY OF THE HOT HEADDED POSTERS HERE???
GOOD GRIEF!
SOMEONE HERE SUGGESTED THAT NO ONE USES MORTARS ANY MORE? HONESTLY, THATS FUNNY, ISN'T THAT WHAT U.S. TROOPS HAD SUCH A PROBLEM WITH WHEN INVADING IRAQ? (YES, I SPELL IT THE SAME AS IT APPEARS ON EVERY MAP IN THE WORLD. NOT IRAK... DUH!)
"In addition, I think it would be difficult for President Bush to go into another country(Iran) without tangible proof "
WELL HERE'S SOME GOOD NEWS! SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON JUST DEMANDED THAT WE TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION AGAINST IRAN TODAY DUE TO TO THE FACT THAT THEY REFUSE TO SHUT DOWN THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAMS.
SHE SAID IT, THATS ALL THE PROOF I NEED... RIGHT?
BOMBS AWAY!!
There will always be war and there will always be killing. Doesn't matter if it's USA, Iran, Britain, Russia, even the past Roman Empire, Mongol, and Islamic. We have been at war for thousands of years.
What's so bad about protecting against mortars at times of war? It'll save our troop's lives.
They need to steer away from projectiles having an individual propellant load. One source of propellant for every projectile would be safer for the user and manufacturer, and more efficient. BTW, 240k rpm is a hypothetical, ie. no reload, perfect conditions, etc.
Um, also, my 2cents, you know who still uses mortars, the United States Military thats's who. Also, by the "its ok to spell Iraq as Irak" theory, then we should spell France As Franse too since thats kinda the same right? NO, the letter that most correctly translitterates to english is a Q not a K. If you speak arabic at all. Also, I was in Iraq as someone else mentioned, and the mortrars are a big problem there. They suck at aim, but can get lucky from time to time, case in point, one of my buddies killed and another is in a wheelchair permanently. Please flame when you have a clue, not when you think you do.
Who the fuck told you there is just one way to write country names, stupid. Irak is perfectly written like that.
How about you shut the fuck up, go back to school and take an english lesson or few you pre-pubecent fuck.
-The worker is known by the tool..., and weapons are not tools for the peace-
sweet
Your tax dollars at work MoFo
The bullets are stored in the barrels in a stack with powder between them. There's no storage and no brass, but
once you shoot it's done. You'd
have to change the barrels out.
I want three!
Truly sad. Of all the things the world needs, but instead we develop more efficient ways to maim and kill.
To those who say the world is a dangerous place, and believing in working towards peace is niaive. They are half right. The world _is_ dangerous because of attitudes like that. Regardless, believing in peace is the only option.
You don't need a crystal ball to see that if we don't work towards peace, it is only a matter of time before ever more destructive technology in the hands of the greedy, fearful and psychotic will inevitably wipe us all out.
It is natural to want power, and it is natural to want to defend yourself... but humans must eventually look beyond their first guy reactions and consider the true consequences. What kind of world are we working towards?
I heard there building a Walt Disney Resort in Iraq.
blah, you know I just love how kids today and collage nerds think they know shit about this world, Mortars are used by EVERY military power do to there versitility and range, also the smallest 6 inch mortar rounds have a kill/mauling radius of 60 yards, this aint holly wood where the rounds land next to you and you keep running, your good as dead if its that close, and yes luckly the Iraqi's don't fight worth shit, in WW2 the Japs killed 2,000+ american men and women in the first 2 hours, vs the same number in two years of Iraq. Be thankful, you people seem to have lost what it means to fight and the pircaple of honor. But on Topic I don't think this weapon will make it, the whole loading system concerns me, more so over a long period of firing.
But really this is why freedom of speach needs to be curtilied a little so ass wipes that no nothing can not poison the minds of others.
And guy in Iraq, good luck to you and your men.
i wish they would put one of these in Unreal Tournament 2004
DREAD would be the better option I would think.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7365
Just dump shot in. No fancy ammo, no swaping barrels.
better website, the other one is a bit short on facts
http://www.defensereview.com/article526.html
...FRANCE SURRENDERS
Where to begin? For those of you worried about the cyclic rate of this weapon, the standard used for weapons systems is rounds per minute. Even if it can only get off 100 rounds before being out of ammo, the standard is how many could it fire in one minute. This is seen across the board for weapons, so they have some area of comparrison. As far as needing to reload, the weapon is meant to intercept mortar rounds, much in the same fashon as the Patriot is used against missles. You won't need to reload right away, because there will be nothing left to hit after it is fired. If there is fear of multiple inbound, you would set up more than one weapon system. The radar/tracking system for this is capable of identifying, and prioritizing multiple inbound.
For you idealists that are worried about the welfare of the Iraqis, peace on Earth, the demise of President Bush, cut backs on military spending etc., why don't you go spend sometime in the real world? Get out of your parent's basement, and take a look around. The US is one of few nations that up holds the Geneva Convention. The Geneva Convention states that it is unlawful to hide soldiers, and arms in a place of worship, i.e. church, mosque, etc. Guess what? That is the first place that the insurgents go running after taking poc shots at the convoy bringing food to their fellow citizens. You small minded, ignorant children that belive everything that Fox says are going to be the demise of this country. You are not dealing with people that want to sit down at a table with you to work things out. They hate you. They want nothing more than to see your blood spilled on the dirt, so they can dance around. They kidnap innocent civilians, cut their heads off on video, and post it on the internet. They don't care what you think. I don't mean this to be true for all Muslims. It is far from that. Most Muslims are peacful, and want a chance to grow and thrive like everyone else. But a small percentage of them would gladly see every man, woman and child that is not Muslim die a gruesom death. Don't believe me, go walking through downtown Tikrit, or Bahgdad, unarmed, without an escort, preaching your BS peace rhetoric and see how long you last.
SSG
US Army
Death begets death.
Enjoy the taste of blood.
The only reason they hate you is because you act as you do. Besides.. Doesn't the Geneva Convention say something against torturing prisoners of war? Guatanamo, anyone? I agree that the "terrorists" are not lovey-duvey people, but the US isn't the lone savior of our planet either.
Now if the US were real smart they'd just throw all that money they just wasted into some good-ol'fashioned Propaganda...
If the US was REAL smart they'd just take the money they're (OK, we're, I admit it) spending in Iraq and give it to the people who live there! That's a lot of money and I suspect they'd be our pals.
In the old days they (we) would just give money to people like the Shaw in Iran and have him steer the country in the direction we wanted it to go... that didn't work out too well in a lot of places even though it was more cost-effective than giving money to everybody.
"Death begets death" Yeah, yeah, and an eye for an eye makes for a blind world. What would you suggest? Sit around and let them kill your family? That way they could sleep tight without worrying that you would kill them? If you think violence is never the answer than what is? Sept 11th was an unprovoked attack on American civilians. How should we have responded? Asked nicely that they not do that again? Tell them that we would all convert? Here's the thing. These people hated us long before Desert Storm. This war started a thousand years ago. These finatics think that anyone that worships a different god is an infidel and deserves to die. As for Iraq, you go tell the Kurds that they should have tried talking to Saddam, and that that would have solved their problems.
Yes, the Geneva Convention does prohibit the unnecessary torture of enemy combatants. If you think putting panty hose on someone's head is torture, there is something wrong. As for the US being the savior of the world...
When they came for the Jews, I said nothing. When they came for the Blacks, I said nothing. When they came for the Hispanics, I said nothing. When they came for me there was no one left to say anything for me. The apathy the rest of the world showed towards the attrocities that were occuring in Iraq is appalling(sp?).
Next you will say that it is okay for Iran to wipe Israel off the map. That the rest of the world need not get involved.
someone needs to fucking calm down
:cough: physco america hater :cough:
:Sarcastic: Here's a great idea... maybe we should give the money that we are spending on the war effort to the people of Iraq. Then we can leave and let the people of Iraq be totally overthrown by terrorists. This is what all of you guys are saying. I totally support the war and President Bush. He knows what he is doing is right. What are we supposed to do... slap the terrorists on the hand and ask them politely to not attack us again. Yeah! That would work!
The biggest problem is the ammunition they shoot. US military already uses lots of depleted uranium for bullets (heavier/more mass than lead). Sure, it's low level radiation, but you put 240,000 rounds of it in one area and it adds up.
Bad news.
The biggest problem is the ammunition they shoot -- similar weapons currently in use fire depleted uranium. No single projectile is very radioactive by itself, but when you fire 240,000 rounds per second it adds up really quick.
Bad news.
I need one o' them darn things fer when me and Ern go up huntin' prarie dogs!
Hmmm... well AS a Marine who actually served in Iraq, I would just like to say that we sure could have used a few of these over there. Mortar fire is a day to day occurance at several outposts... I guess my thoughts are 1) if you value the lives of Marines, buy us a crapload of these things, hook 'em up to a remote control, and give them to the infantry. 2) if you hate Americans, yah... no shit this thing isn't going to meet with your approval... we're likely going to use it on you at some point. Peace...
...I agree. AND it would come in handy for fighting aliens, should the need ever arise