RIAA Hell: Automatic Wireless MP3 Sharing
The Viktoria Institute in Gothenburg, Sweden, is working on a concept they call PUSH MUSIC, which is software that automatically shares music files with nearby users who have similar tastes. It monitors the listening history of the user, and develops awareness about what kind of new music he might like. The concept envisions Wi-Fi-enabled music players that automatically establish a peer-to-peer connection, enabling people to either "browse" the music collections of others and take a copy of whatever they like, or -- here's the magic part -- just automatically recieve music the software has selected for you. (You here that? That's the sound of teeth gnashing and hair ripping coming from RIAA HQ).
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People wandering in and out of a given situation might make for a bunch of half downloaded songs, no?
I can only imagine the implications this would have on security. Sure, send me infected files without my permission.. sounds great.
Ummmm.. Folks, you're talking about engineers who build new technology from scratch.
I'm sure they've thought of that.
That's why they call some things "New and innovative".
piece of crap... I thought of something like this.
haha. I've just been waiting for something like this to happen. it's gonna' be awesome.
Not to be a skiptic, but sounds like an easy way to pass malicious code to me. Still, anything that pisses off the RIAA is OK by me.
One other problem is verifying that the music is what it claims to be. I can imagine certain anti-social types (okay, me) going around with a collection of hardcore deathmetal tracks with the ID3 tags of some Top 40 pop music.
Hey presto - teenyboppers with a taste for Britney are automatically fed Spill the blood of the virgin with the blade of my desire.
Let's call it "pushjacking".
the solution to the mentioned problems would be the peer based rating system, that would quickly follow suit.
Um.. you know we have had this kind of technology since the 1920's... it's called FM RADIO.
push-jacking..... i'd push some drums n bass onto people.... if nothing else this is a way to help purge poor musical taste
All you guys that are knocking this are the type of guys that cant do anything yourselves... lame!!
that is why the future is not carved out by you fools!
Sounds like a reat idea and it will apply to video aswell. We also have HSDPA to look forward to aswell!
Fools
it's 'HEAR' not 'HERE' !!
P2P has always been about trust, putting faith into the people who you download music off. That you may be taken advantage of goes without saying
Anonymous said...
"Um.. you know we have had this kind of technology since the 1920's... it's called FM RADIO."
Wow! I was just wondering which planet you are from. Here on earth, FM radio has really only been around a little more than 30 years - you're obviously representative of a highly advanced civilization...
"Anonymous said...
I can only imagine the implications this would have on security. Sure, send me infected files without my permission.. sounds great."
An MP3, AAC, etc. does not contain executable code. That's like worrying about "infected" text files.
Wow! I was just wondering which planet you are from. Here on earth, FM radio has really only been around a little more than 30 years - you're obviously representative of a highly advanced civilization...
FM radio was invented (on Earth) by Edwin Armstrong in 1933, about 73 years ago. Here's your lesson for the day: It's probably a good idea to know WTF you are talking about before making fun of others.
Wow, sounds almost identical to a project I've been working on called PodShare.
http://cordova.asap.um.maine.edu/~raymondj/podshare/
I've not read much about this but if it is anything like TunA (http://web.media.mit.edu/~stefan/hc/projects/tuna/) or Roadcasting (http://roadcasting.org/) then I want a device or car that does this. (Wired magazine has done a few articles on this subject.)
The biggest problem (initially) with this is either you need a concentration of people or you need a signal that will travel a ways in many directions. After good hardware (and installation) is established then much of the problems will be in software.
Cory Doctorow's book Eastern Standard tribe has a talks about a mechanism like this. http://www.craphound.com./novels.php
If you can get an iPod like (multi GB) device that does this--and presumably doesn't suck--for under $400, I'd buy it.
I can’t wait for a day when people who make music do it simply for the love of making music and not to pad the pockets of the recording industry executives through excessive windowing. All we have to do now is not work 40h work weeks so we can devote more time to our own artistic endeavors.
Note to the RIAA: This is why the rest of us have been laughing while you've been sitting in court. Sue all you want, there's a hundred million of us geeks out here, and none of us give a f*ck about your rights. Start a licensing pool, or keep hemmoraging money. Your choice.
So.. ear2ear file sharing.. why don't we just bypass all the BS and give everyone in the world access to everything we own?
We tryed sharing evething, the RIAA keeps complaining.
"And none of us give a f*ck about your rights"
Settle down AngryEric ... you don't speak for the greater 'we'. Take a look at the other comments here ... most of us aren't foaming at the mouth angry at the world punching walls over this news. This is an interesting concept for new technology ... focus on the positive.
Great now spammers can fill up my music collection. Halfway through the Britnee Track - buy Satan online premium rate - WTF can you say the Sound of Goatse.
An MP3, AAC, etc. does not contain executable code. That's like worrying about "infected" text files.
You know, a long time ago there was the mythical 'Goodtimes' virus which spread through email. At the time this was purely a hoax, you couldn't get a virus just by reading an email.
Then Microsoft started writing mail clients.
Likewise, people will likely want to play their .wma files in their player, and if the implementation is vulnerable, you could quite easily see the spread of infected files. (this is just as true if there is a flaw in the MP3 decoder.)
If there is a great diversity in player software (which is likely) it will be very difficult for one file to infect every system.
Eric:
This is also not without it's risks, if this becomes popular, the RIAA could send wireless 'sniffers' to popular venues to track down individual users to intimidate at sue.
They could also pollute the system with low quality/repeating files.
File quality and security issues might both be addressed with the rating system used, but it is a hard problem.
Abolish Copyright
OK, this starts out good BUT it would be just as easy to include viruses to screw up your palm. Or possibly tags could be loaded as well to track files.
With every enlightenment there is a dark side.
we'll all have our headphones on. we'll be wired in. the music will flow. then they'll hypnotise us with their evil rays. sublimal messages will control us. we will become a great drone army. we will toil for long hours to their ends. we will storm the land in search of the others and force them to listen in. to be wired. then when all is lost a great team of hacker geniuses will save us from the evil lords and free our minds. the golden era will began and a new age will be upon us.
This could be really really funny. See the death metal guy below get some show tunes from "sound of music."
I do not think this will really happen.
1. It will be sued into oblivion becasue they will be said to wanting people to pirate music.
2. The abuse from others. Like deathmetal guy with top 40 id tags.
3. one virus will kill the whole thing. Or... make the antivirus people really really richer.
Lawyers will make it illegal to own unapproved encoding software. It will become illegal to "rip" any corporately copyrighted material to any format that doesn't ensure DRM. Of course the law will be impossible to enforce on the micro level but it will give corporations a way to intimidate and shut down real threats.
Having read the comments and reflections on this, one things is for sure. When a piece of software can piss people off, make others claim that "I have actaully also thought about this", and having yet others saying that the big corporations will make it illegal. - the wizkids back in Sweden have really created something great.
All the viruses, commercials and nasty stuff could be avoided if we don't let things into automatically. Based on the article, automation is an option.
Furthermore, if we have firewalls, antivirus, (now, anti rootkits, damm DRM crap) in our pc's, using a couple of megs, why can't we have an AV+Firewall client in a 30 GB IPOD and the likes? That is probably 1 or 2 320 kbps songs anyways.
Anyone coming with a working ***cheap please*** Firewall + AV for mobile gadgets will have my money.
FM may have been invented in the 30s but it just surpassed AM in the radio market in the 1980s.
seems similiar to Awaire
You people apparently write craploads about File sharing but don't use. Do any of you people know what a TTH is? And that "malicious code" and "Death metal disguised as Brittney Spears" has been around P2P since the very beginning? These are already solved problems. If you want to crash the Push Music concept you'll have to do a lot better than that.
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